Because of MISTAKES. Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. }); Im aware hes from Canada, Im aware people are less touchy-feely in the west, but the fact that the thought of his band members being gay or transworried him is definitely problematic. This thread can't even agree on what Mamamoo did or did not do and yet y'all want to drag them into Blackpink's problematic sh*t to divert the attention, y'all are a damn mess. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. I will put just a fraction of some of the hate comments they receive every day down below. Goodbye! Our hearts on fire . Mamamoo is a 4 member girl group under Rainbow Bridge World whose members are Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein and Hwasa and they made their debut on 19th June 2014. Theyre one of my favorite groups and its kind of annoying to see people say that Im not a fan just because I made the post. Ngl I let out a couples laughs tho. To be honest, I wish Id made the suju post more like the exo one, because the exo one included a lot of the stuff people are criticising me for leaving out of this one. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). **All colorism is bad, but i think its fair to say that whenever Tao or Kai try to deflect colorist comments onto each other, it is usually a form of defence mechanism that stems from internalised colorism. She was singing song lyrics from Melon (a Spotify-type South Korean streaming website), lyrics that had the n-word in them. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 I feel like stepping back will give me more time to learn and expand my horizons and less time to speak on topics I dont actually know much about. "Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo," read one tweet. That doesnt make it okay and it doesnt mean it cant be just as harmful, but considering they are nearly always the victims of such colorist comments, it is somewhat different to when they come from somebody else who is unaffected by them. Call me out for what? i seriously didnt mean to sound defensive?? Im not sure anyone will read this post, Im not sure if any of the people upset by my actions will read it (because I doubt they are following this blog) but I felt like I owed everybody an apology. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. ", HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT pic.twitter.com/hfqIr5fn9w, THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/gEpnibGF9J, the gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall #AskHwasa, Baby Mia Jade Riley: Parents Lani and Tom Riley speak out after dog attack killed their 5-week-old infant, 'We have lots to reveal': Madeleine McCann lookalike Julia Wandelt posts footage of meeting with PI probing claims, Kyle Sambrook: Hiker falls 100ft to death while carrying his dog in one hand through 'appalling' weather, Killer mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from drug withdrawal and had 'worst side effects,' says friend, Bruce Willis's mom Marlene 'not sure if her son still recognizes her' as 'aggressiveness' creeps in. ; _____; aaaa. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. Im not Korean and I dont live in Korea so Im not comfortable talking about Korean social norms or anything like that, but colorism and homophobia are still bad and damaging things. Everyday there are tweets wishing for her to die, get beat up, fall out of planes, etc. Notifications can be turned off anytime from browser settings. And that isnt even getting into the worst of it. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. eventAction: 'render' }); i am so so tired. Others, despite agreeing that Hwasa was at fault, thought the questions were taking it too far. Threads: 0. You are entitled to your own opinion, and if what Mamamoo has done is considered too ignorant or rude for you to support them anymore, that is 100% in your right to not excuse them for it. Yes I should have included more context. So girls have to be skinny and boys can be Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, Im just saying. hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. eventAction: 'click_ads' Posts: 310. I did watch the video when it was up but it was a while ago and I dont remember exactly what he said. Threads: 138. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. MEAWW brings you the best content from its global team of I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. pg.acq.push(function() { document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. Kim Yong-sun (Korean: , born February 21, 1991), better known by the stage name Solar (Korean: ), is a South Korean singer, songwriter and actress signed under RBW.She is the leader and main vocalist of girl group Mamamoo and its sub-unit Mamamoo+. okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) MEAWW is an initialism for Media Entertainment Arts WorldWide. The photos are problematic as they were taken in 2008 when Chorong was in high school and underage at 17 years old. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. MAMAMOOWA Entertainment2015 Rainbow Bridge World (RBW)MAMAMOOMAMAMOO . 2. Ive heard Moomoos are known as fairly passive, but its also why they are known as some of the most accepting and even better behaved fans. If you would not be able to handle it being done to you, dont do it to others, no matter how big or famous those other people are. Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. They apologized. Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. She embraces her skin and body, even though it doesn't fit neatly within traditional notions of what is considered 'ladylike' or 'beautiful' according to South Korean standards and prefers to pen songs about empowerment. i just dont love all the stuff they say/do. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. In the boy groups section, there are fans defending them for everything and even saying things like, "Come back when ___(male idols)__ abuse people, then we'll talk about them being 'problematic'." With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. JavaScript is disabled. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. if he simply stated that he thought they were gay/trans, then there isnt a problem because theres nothing wrong with a person being gay/trans. When people see my profile pic on Instagram and see that I'm a black Moomoo , they always try to use it against me saying that I must not care about the black community if I still support them. Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. The sun will always shine for us. Refresh the page,. Mamamoo has been dubbed by a lot, especially by antis as one of the most controversial groups in the history of kpop. Yes, we're all people, but idols are scrutinized for their every word and action, even much more so than non-celebrities). So I decided to forgive them cause myself personally thinks that they tried to show love to Bruno Mars which is apparently one of their fav artist by doing a vcr of their songs but stupidity and very ignorantly decided to dark their skin to match his and his dancers. : ) : ) Wow! Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. Kissed Yewons thighs on We Got Married while carrying her on his shoulders, Persuaded Jackson (GOT7) to accompany him in going into the girls room without permission and rifling through their stuff on episode 45 of SBS Roommate, thanks for not defending the other stuff I guess, okay this is actually the last post I just find it hard to sleep when I dont resolve stuff, An Apology For the Super Junior Masterpost, I wasnt trying to paint suju as bad guys or anything I honestly just wanted to help the people whod be sending me asks, sorry to bring this up again but a few more people reblogged it. pic.twitter.com/d4GXcv4AIt, As more fans attempted to clear the hashtag and ask for others to be kind and consider the mental health of idols like Hwasa, some couldn't help but laugh at the questions being asked. You can decide to remove them from your lives, not support them, not give them any attention, money or time, but death threats? I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. Another thing is my mental health. Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. hitType: 'event', Anyway, just my thoughts. After Wendys tragic and heartbreaking fall, immediately there were dozens upon dozens of tweets wishing Hwasa could take her place and become horribly injured. It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. }); We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. (I read your tags) I hope you dont mind me reblogging this, If you do please just tell me and Ill delete it. For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. Why was that her fault? I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. eventAction: 'load' The thing that happened next is the thing often referenced the most when discussing Mamamoos past, Hwasa singing the n-word. I recently saw their variety show where they traveled to Busan and talked a bit about the past and Moonbyul said something that really squeezed my heart (paraphrasing): "We're human. As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. Personally, from the time that I've been a fan, Mamamoo has usually apologized/acted contrite for any controversies that they've caused. But in this case it was obviously red, and drawn the way a clown would wear it. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. It genuinely makes me sad that the kpop community hasn't changed since I left it in 2014 which is why I'm so reluctant to jump back into it and only really here to support MAMAMOO. The thing to note here is that Hwasa is not fluent in English. This has taken me quite a while to write because its about 3 am and Im trying not to come across as rude or self-righteous, which I something I often do unintentionally, and Im really sorry its so long when you probably didnt even want a response in the first place. And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('impressionViewable', function(event) { if he just said that he wasshocked because he thought they were gay/trans, then its iffy. 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . it is also very likely the kangin/n thing was scripted, considering n hung out with suju members shortly after and neither n nor kangin nor their companies were asked about it EVEN ONCE and calling someonetrash in a magazine or bts video is a big deal. Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. | by unchangingtruth | Medium Write Sign up Sign In 500 Apologies, but something went wrong on our end. if henry said that the idea of his band mates being gay/transworried him, thats homophobic and transphobic. This page was loaded Sep 23rd 2021, 9:34 pm GMT. Its quite a big responsibility looking after this blog and Im not sure my wellbeing can take that on top of my workload and personal problems. lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. Yes, I should have included things such as dates. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. ga('ads.send', { eventAction: 'click_image_ads' For example, Ryeowook is another suju member I really like, and I dont agree with him using a picture of Yesung in blackface as his twitter icon whatsoever, I think it was incredibly offensive and insensitive and ignorant, but its not something that has caused me to dislike him. Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? It hurts my heart to see people bash them like that, it really does. I read something the other day that said we forgive the people not the actions which I think is a accurate way of thinking. To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! Fandom Name - Moomoo Sub-Unit - Mamamoo+ Japanese Website Twitter Japanese Twitter Instagram YouTube Japanese YouTube Fan Cafe Tiktok }); I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). its good(, When asked who their ideal types would be if the other members were girls, Chen chose Luhan and Chanyeol chose D.O and Lay then took the microphone to clarify that they were not gay by saying, A similar incident occurred at a concert(?) Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. ga('ads.send', { From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. Firstly, Im fairly sure I missed stuff, but also, a lot of it is somewhat interpretational. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. 18 Jan 2023, 08:31 PM . Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. 1,068. Read more about it here. Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. 6)not excusing it or defending it but [continues to make an excuse for Henry] Sorry, but yes, you are trying to make up excuses for him. I heard that this picture would drive people with OCD crazy.. I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. ", Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? }); heechul just wore a scarf on his head - thats not how anyone wears a hijab properly and white women have been doing that since like the 40s. The other day it was revealed that two major idols were dating, and before I had even seen the news article, I was in a Mamamoo fan group-chat, and someone sent out the link of the dating news with their comment under being, be on high alert for hwasas tags. there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. } I don't think anything they have done has been malicious, however it was a product of maybe not being knowledgeable of what may be considered offensive to others. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. On top of that, they bash the fans saying we overlook everything and that Mamamoo should have been cancelled by now. For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. ga('ads.send', { I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on their controversies and I'll admit it hurt to read so many people hate on them since I was with them when they debut and immediately fell in love. A large section of the hate she receives is linked to the idol rarely conforming to what is typically expected of women in K-pop, particularly ones in girl groups. Press J to jump to the feed. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), }) i know you deemed your siwon thing heavily unreliable but even the fanvideo is wrong. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. hitType: 'event', Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. And while her more recent missteps are nowhere near what she has done in the past, they still, nonetheless, fall in the realm of what many consider offensive. Her confidence has grown through the years, due in part to her role models such as Beyonce and Rihanna, with Hwasa even saying in a now viral video Soon, I found myself promising this: If I dont fit into this generations standard of beauty, then I will have to become a different standard but prejudice based off looks has always been the sore button topic for her. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. They removed the video from the ending of their concert shows and Mamamoo also personally apologized at their following concert to anyone who could have been affected by their previous actions. 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