Martin Buckley gets the warts-and-all story of gifted designers, flawed gems and closed shops from a quartet of former colleagues. AROnline Keith Adams 2001-2022 - please refer to the 'Terms of use' pages. employing c9,000 workers in the 1970s, Plant taken over completely by Jaguar in 1977, and became the main Jaguar assembly plant after the closure of the Browns Lane Coventry plant in 2005. He was 83 years old and had been in poor health for several . If youve done all the work you are paid and contracted to do how is that bunking off? Mr Robinson, one of the most famous trade unionists of the 1970s, was dubbed Red Robbo by the media. If you want to see the true horrors of 1970s workplaces, have a look at the ship building industry. Lancashire's workers have increased the amount of hours they put in by 1.5% since . Whatexactly happened and whenare not easy to decipher. "He may well have had absolute belief in what he was doing, but few others did," Mr Cox added. 9 January 1980. She said: "My husband rang to tell me that they have all lost their jobs.". The men said that, under BLs Measured Day Work system of payment, they were entitled to leave as soon as they had completed their output target for the day. Sounds very like British Leyland at the start of the seventies, four out of ten new cars were British Leyland and imports were still rare, if slowly gaining ground, and a few customers werent happy about the quality of the new Maxi. Did the media have it in for British Leyland? The British Leyland Motor Corporation (BLMC), was a vehicle manufacturing company formed in the United Kingdom in 1968. Ray Horrocks (right), the head of BL Cars, told Chairman Michael Edwardes: We talk of regaining management control and applying proper discipline. 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Mr Robinson led the fight back, organising hundreds of disputes. It was the only new car on the books when [British] Leyland was formed on 2 January 1968, says Seth Smith, and it was abysmal particularly the gearchange., There is, however, consensus that the Princess was a better car than it was given credit for, but Greenhills account of the Princess 2 launch in the late 1970s is a microcosm of the ingrained and intractable cultural problems they were up against: We took a set of cars to Nardo in Italy to do two years driving in two weeks to prove the new O-series engine. We ask Birmingham: How can bus services improve in the city? Mr Robert Yates, British Leyland foreman, was dismissed for allowing men to sleep on the night shift at the Rover works in Solihull, West Midlands, an industrial tribunal was told yesterday. Buried deep somewhere in that automotive salmagundi: an old Punch magazine. Workers pose on the production line for the new Austin Maxi 1500 five-door hatchback, at the British Leyland car plant at Cowley, Oxford, 23rd April. A shame really as improvements to the Maxi, Princess and Allegro had made these cars as good as many of their European rivals and certainly British Leyland never had to endure the sort of scandal that was engulfing Lancia at the time, where poor rustproofing was causing the engines to fall out of relatively new cars. A little later, through a window, he saw two men, naked from the waist up. In February 1980, less than a year after Margaret Thatcher became prime minister, thousands of car workers gathered following the sacking of one man. The story first hit the headlines on 12 November 1979 when it was revealed that 14night shift workershad been caught sleeping at a British Leyland plant. Read about our approach to external linking. The hours I spent with Simon, Richard, Alan and Tim confirm that belief. "He's seen as a troublemaker, someone who resisted attempts to modernise," he said. Communist Party of Great Britain, Communist Party of Britain [1] Derek Robinson (1927-2017) was a British trade unionist. Mr Robinson was among those trade unionists soon to lose their grip on power. Mr Robinson . This means employees can complete their daily stint, or work quota, and then go home at any time from 3.00pm onwards, but still be paid to the end of the shift. Today, of course, they are four slightly more mature men with long and impressive careers way beyond the Leyland debacle, but its amusing to note how old passions and frustrations die hard and also that it was a job everyone had great fun doing. History will show that Derek was unfairly maligned by the media as he aimed to find solutions to British Leyland's industrial disputes and turn around the car company." Derek Robinson, trade . But instead of supporting him, the workers who gathered that February day turned on him. It seemed that if they werent being caught sleeping on the night shift they were standing on a picket line, the enduring images of TV news bulletins if your memory goes back that far. Born in Bedfordshire but now residing in Norfolk, Ian Nicholls is an ardent BL enthusiast. The statement added that the company regarded the investigation as private. Former Leyland worker Stephen Cox said Mr Robinson was regarded by many as "way out on an extreme". A firebrand union leader and former British Leyland worker has died aged 90. Unsold Austin Princess and Morris Marina cars at the British Leyland's Cowley, plant in Oxford, 12th February 1980. These were blamed by managers for delays to production of 62,000 cars and 113,000 engines, costing the business an estimated 200m. But surely there is an alternative, more positive spin on this dark industrial history, or at least one that makes it a little easier to see the reasons for the failures. Do they take well to polishing, T-Cut, or is a respray the remediation? One factor perhaps not widely understood is that chronic under-investment meant that many major components were being built on pre-war tooling, whereas the Germans, for example, had all the latest kit. Mr Alan Walters, a supervisor, said he had seen another man come from the office carrying a Land-Rover seat capable of being used as a bed. What fire was my friends answer to which the policeman pointed to the mess of the building next door and the thirty fire engines surrounding it! Not just the NHS government in general! 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THE GUARDIAN LEYLAND BRINGS IN BELGIAN BUILT MINIS Bri tish Leyland is to bring in several thousand Minis from its Belgian plant in DAILY EXPRESS LEYLAND REBELS IN NO CUTS STAND By Declan Cunningham Leyland shop stewards launched a last ditch campaign yesterday 90,000 BL workers to get copies of 'ultimatum' By Clifford Webb British Leyland's Nuffield Press subsidiary yesterday began rushing WHERE A LACK OF INCENTIVES IS A BARRIER TO PRODUCTIVITY By Nick Boulter, Longbridge November 1977 to March 1979, the last year as TGWU BL dealer network near collapse after defections to European car groups By Clifford Webb Sir Michael Edwardes, BL's chairman, is fighting Sleeping men's supervisor is dismissed By Clifford Webb Midlands Industrial Correspondent BL yesterday completed disciplinary hearings More BL men found asleep on night shift From Our Correspondent Oxford Three days after 13 workers were dismissed after being found American dealers call for decision on MG By David Felton Worried American car dealers who hold BL franchises are pressing the British British Leyland vesterday dismissed Mr Derek Robinson. When we walked the shop floor, I think 90 per cent of the employees had actually gone home. When questioned the men said they had completed their work quota. At the time the industrial giant was believed to be the sixth largest car manufacturer in the world, with 11 marques - Austin, Austin-Healey, Daimler, Jaguar, MG, Morris, Riley, Rover, Triumph, Vanden Plas and Wolseley - and factories across the globe. There is a long-standing tradition known as stint and finish. The following day Robert Yates lost his appeal for unfair dismissal. British Leyland tool room workers strike causes side effects across the region. Beginning on 8 January 1980, the Foreman fired in November, now named as Mr Robert Yates, of Coplow Close, Balsall Common, Warwickshire, began an unfair dismissal claim against Land Rover. Permanent Salary: 27,043 - 33,453pa; Hours: Monday - Friday 09:00-17:00 Friday 09:00 - 14:00; Person Specification The Drews Lane dispute became an all out strike on 3 November 1978, and 26,000 BL workers were laid off as a result, before it was resolved on 17 November. The great BL adventure started promisingly, as Tim Greenhill points out: When I began as an apprentice, the 1100/1300 had 15% of the UK market and BMC overall had 30%: when it joined Leyland, Rover and Jaguar, it had 60%!, In fact, there was never a problem selling Rovers, Jaguars or Triumphs, which didnt have the image problems of the more strategically important family models. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. Only British Rail and its curly-edged sandwiches ranked lower in the publics estimation. Six hundred workers had been laid off indefinitely because of a shortage of suspension units caused by a work to rule by 150 workers at the transmission plant at Drews Lane. Following his dismissal, Mr Robinson worked as a tutor in trade union studies during the 1980s and 1990s, teaching shop stewards. The measured day rate replaced piece work at around 1970-1974 IIRC. His crime was to put his name to a combine committee pamphlet setting out an approach that drew on the experience of the Upper Clyde Shipbuilders. Security officers kept watch from behind an extractor fan in a paint shop from where they could see a clocking point. At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. The Question was as follows: To ask Her Majesty's Government how many workers at British Leyland 515 and their suppliers were laid off as a result of the toolmakers' strike and how many hours of work so lost by this strike will be included in the published statistics of manhours lost through industrial action. Odd we never ever had a BL product..Incidentally Ive never ever seen a red SD1 before.. Did they suffer from the Renault red effect? The spokesman at the Land Rover plant in Solihull: We do not condone sleeping or dozing in working hours.. A combination of poor steel and corrosion, so Lancia werent entirely to blame. leader of the unofficial BL shop stewards' committee. Fearing that its collapse would leave a million workers unemployed, the Labour government nationalized it. When former Triumph and Leyland Special Tuning man Richard Seth Smith arrives, proffering a rare Rover SD1 press pack, all concerned nod sagely at the suggestion that this was yet another brilliantly conceived but indifferently executed car. Ultimately it would become nationalised as British Leyland, often referred to as just BL.In 1986 it was renamed to Rover Group.. History. Union convenor Derek Robinson had been dismissed months earlier by British Leyland's chairman Michael Edwardes. And apart from the stupid steering wheel, the Allegro was pretty good, and a lot less labourintensive to produce than the 1100/1300., Was the UK press quicker to stick the boot in when things went wrong than they were in, say, France? They made BL look like rank amateurs. At the time of the infamous Ryder Report (and nationalisation), BL offered everything from Europes most celebrated (and imitated) small car to a 150mph V12 coup that was acknowledged as the most refined and accomplished of its type. "His legacy ought to be that you've got to fight," said Mr Loach. Created www.austin-rover.co.uk in 2001 and built it up to become the world's foremost reference source for all things BMC, Leyland and Rover Group, before renaming it AROnline in 2007. This has not happened easily and Black and Asian people have often had to fight for their rights. The men at Drews Lane had worked to rule for several weeks in protest at management attempts to stop them leaving early. Had similar on a 2002 406, at the door bottoms, possibly because of a bad seal. There are inept managers everywhere.Tesco were once omnipotent. The struggle for equality at work. From Our Correspondent Birmingham. Absenteeism is simply defined as an individual's frequent pattern of evasion from an obligation or duty. Not to mention any management off home by 3pm.Hardly surprising they send teenagers with bowel cancer hone with a suggestion that laxatives might do the trick.. Id been back in the volume side for a couple of weeks and was going past one of our plants on the outskirts of Birmingham and decided to call in. The company remained a ward of the state for 13 years. I realised that it wasnt going to sell somehow it had no presence. A little later, through a window, he saw two men, naked from the waist up. work. Enter your username or email to reset your password. Two of them had clocked 24 or 25 cards. As shop steward at British Leyland in Longbridge, Birmingham, he was involved in a series of strikes and walkouts over alleged mismanagement. Back in 2011, I visited a fair-sized barn in North Yorkshire full of Maestros, Montegos and the odd Metro. However, someone should have really gone at Lyons (head of Jag) and put him firmly in his place. Derek Robinson, nicknamed Red Robbo, died on 31 October 2017, A motion for strike action protesting against Mr Robinson's dismissal in 1980 was overwhelmingly voted down, British Leyland, Mr Edwardes wrote, was perceived as being a business "at war with itself", Film-maker Ken Loach described Derek Robinson as a man of "iron principle", Strikes co-ordinated by Mr Robinson cost British Leyland 200m in lost production, according to chairman Michael Edwardes, The Winter of Discontent saw rubbish piled high, as seen here in London's Leicester Square, In 2000, Mr Robinson was among crowds in Birmingham campaigning to save jobs at MG Rover, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. He was credited with causing 523 walkouts at British Leyland between 1978 and 1979, costing an estimated 200 million in lost . Derek "Red Robbo" Robinson, who has died aged 90, was the firebrand British Leyland workers' representative whose sacking in November 1979 came to symbolise Margaret Thatcher's . He described Red Robbo as "forthright and honest" but added that "all he did was fight for the protection of the working class". Belated attempts to set up acceptable new output targets had been resisted by the Shop Stewards. Photography James Page/LAT. Vilified by the media as "Red Robbo" he was also betrayed, in the eyes of his supporters, by trade union bosses. It would suck senior stewards into collusion with management and neutralise shopfloor activism. However, the wife of one of the dismissed workers, Mrs Ray Pennell, of Chelmsley Wood, Birmingham, said the management knew of the practice and had asked men to double-load the conveyors if production fell behind. Mr Alan Walters, a Supervisor, said he had seen another man come from the office carrying a Land Rover seat capable of being used as a bed. Following his death on Tuesday aged 90, BBC News examines his legacy. He will give evidence today. Be the first to rate this post. Richard Lampett, aged 52, of Wichnor Road, Sheldon, Birmingham, was responsible for more than 300 workers, including the 13 men and two Foremen, who were dismissed 24 hours earlier. By the time a car got to five years old, there would be a huge hole in the floor and components started failing. Mr Robinson was involved in an estimated 500 disputes at Longbridge. Derek Robinson - nicknamed "Red Robbo" by tabloid newspapers - was one of the biggest names in the trade union movement during the 1970s. Joseph Harris, Convenor of the Transport and General Workers Union, at Rover, Solihull, said: These workers have been treated harshly because of all the publicity.The disciplinary hearings ended on 14 November 14 1979 whenBL dismissed the Superintendent in charge of the day and night shifts in that area of the Land Rover plant at Solihull. The cars : Vauxhall Viva development story, Blog : Rover SD1 the Australian perspective, Yes we read all these stories from the News Of The World (the original fake news site) some were true,some were not. Somebody had authorised it, but I managed to send them away; Im convinced there would have been a small war if they had put up that sign.. After a tip-off by the News of the World newspaper, senior managers the previous week carried out a surprise inspection of the night shift in a paint priming shop. Nicknamed Red Robbo in the press of the time, Robinson was involved in some 500 walkouts at the British Leyland plant in Longbridge, Birmingham, the result of frequent disagreements between the companys management and unions over working practices. Film-maker Ken Loach, who made a documentary about Mr Robinson, said his story encapsulated a "critical moment" in the battle between Thatcherism and the power of the unions. The former British Leyland worker and trade unionist Derek Robinson has died, aged 90. The British Leyland era at Longbridge became a byword for wildcat walkouts, union militancy and industrial chaos - and helped clear the path to political power for Margaret Thatcher. The incident would be reported to the management and judged on the circumstances. Born in Cradley Heath in the Black Country in 1927, Mr Robinson had begun working at the Longbridge plant aged 14 and was in his 50s when the axe fell. In this occasional series Ian Nichollsrevisits some of these stories, using the newspaper articles of the time as the main source of information. Says Pearson: We had quite regular contact with DGS as he was known internally. No votes so far! . The company remained a ward of the state for 13 years. But the political mood of the country was changing. For many, Mr Robinson is remembered "very badly", according to Chris Cowin, an expert on British Leyland's history. On 10 January 1980 night-shift workers were given a wake-up warning by British Leyland management. The former British Leyland worker and trade unionist Derek Robinson has died, aged 90. Mr John Share, Personnel Manager, said the company was satisfied that Mr Yates had allowed men to sleep on a night shift and had allowed clocking offences in which he had taken part. It wasnt cheap steel.it was steel that was galvanised on one side only..the idea being that the galvanised side went towards the wet..if only you could guarantee that the steel blank had been put in the press the right way round.. My father and his work colleague both had red S reg 2600 Rovers from new. People were not being properly paid and rewarded so they got together and formed their own alliance. He hopes his friend will be remembered as "one of those stalwarts in the post-war era that maintained a better life for ordinary people", not as an "agitator" or "destroyer" which he said was "a complete invention". 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